Human Nature (Western - Michael Jackson) Hemanth

Human Nature (Western - Mic... Lyrics & Chords

2011 12 02 Cover -

[Friends, based on some invaluable tips below from Harshan bro & Naqvi ji, I have redone the cover with a better mixing method. It is not yet fully software based mix & recording, but I will hopefully learn that soon. I have used Audacity for the final mix and for some echo and compression on my vocals….

I just realized that Muziboo seems to have this awesome functionality of swapping out uploads with newer revisions. Therefore what I have here now is the improved version 2. Many thanks :-) !]

A humble tribute to the greatest entertainer ever…. dear Michael Jackson….

I had attempted this an year ago, and this is therefore my usual reattempt to utilize some Muziboo best practices :-) !

Hope you will like it. Do please bear with my accent though….

[DISCALIMER: As Vinod bro says, this recording will sound abyssmal without a good pair of ear/head phones :-) !!]

Thanks & regards,

Hemanth

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Adina Galani Pro user said

Great one! Performance I mean. :) Shame on me, but not familiar with the song heheh. Don’t tell anyone :)
Adina

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Ok! i change my opinion i stay for my friends. said

woooow!!!bhai you surprise me…awesome….i love this song and i yust to dance on it in disco 83 in paris…thank u for take me back to yesteryears.your feel and singing are not far of original….love it in your voice…keep up and thank you for sharing…hug goes to my fav n like

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Giri∂hαrαη. u. r. Pro user said

Wow! Very different number from you, Hemanth this time!
I am amazed at your ability to sing such diversified numbers, that too so effortlessly.
Liked it a lot… Liked that falsetto….
Regards,
Giri.

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Harshan (away) Nambiar Pro user said

Hemanth…great voice modulations….loved it. However the mix was a bit muddy….u really need to work on your mixing skill….the vocals were not clear because of that……but loved your attempt…keep it up and keep us guessing what your next post would be.
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Hemanth Kumar Pro user said

@Adina: :-) ! Many thanks…. it is certainly our secret :-) !!

@Tahy bro: Overjoyed to know that you liked this attempt, and that it took you back your memory lane :-) ! I was fortunate to watch MJ live here in Singapore in 1995. He is sheer magic. Many thanks !

@Giri: Many thanks bro, for your encouragement. You must have an amazing taste too, to enjoy different genres. Thanks you very much :-) !

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Hemanth Kumar Pro user said

Dear Harshan Bro,

You have a very keen hearing. You are absolutely true that this mix isn’t the best, and that it has sort of muffled the vocal clarity.

I spent numerous hours to get to this stage yesterday night. I just could not tweak my Behringer mixer to get the desired audio sharpness. The last time I attempted this an year ago, the voice and the track came very sharp, but there was a lot of hiss, and modulations weren’t good enough.

I do need a lot of guidance from you all friends here on the mixing part please. I am using the following primitive method to record:

1. Plug in my mic (voice) and the laptop (track) into the Behringer mixer. Tweak the effects on the mixer.

2. The Output of the mixer is fed into the “mic input” (yes, the mic input) of my Tyros3 keyboard, which does the recording as a single track.

All in all, there’s tonnes of room for errors and noise in my process.

I believe many of our friends here simply use a good mixing software & a sound card, and get the whole process almost entirely on the laptops/computers. The quality I am hearing in you all is simply mind blowing.

Our M’Boo friend Dr. Sridhar had recommended a software at some time.

How do you mix please? Can you and our friends give me some guidance please??

Will scribble this to your wall too….

Many thanks & warm regards,

Hemanth

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Harshan (away) Nambiar Pro user said

Hemanth….why dont u try to record and mix using a RECORDING/mixing software as opposed to an external mixer. The external mixer is great for live shows and such.

You have a lot of such software available …Audacity is open source…though not the greatest, then you have Adobe Audition, cake walk sonar, cubase, Nuendo… what u do is create a project with 2 tracks. Import the ktrack on the first track and then record your vocals listening to the ktrack on headphones…so now u have 2 tracks. After u record….save the original recording…and then play around with effects until you are satisfied with the mix….u will see a world of improvement in the mix. I have not spent a fortune in my recording and mixing setup….its been in my wish list since the last 2 years….its pretty much primitive as well…I use Adobe Audition…used to have cubase at one point but then it stopped working with VISTA.
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Muzaffar Naqvi Pro user said

Tyros 3 is one hell of a keyboard…why you need a cheap Behringer to connect between your mic and keyboard. I am sure Tyros 3 has its own mic pre amp that is far superior than any Behringer stuff. I’ve had lots of experience with Behringer, being cheap and very good for time being but they don’t last long. You can always use your mixer to mix keyboards and mic plus any other device but don’t connect mixer’s output into keyboard. You are bringing trouble right in the start.

Even though your’s is a full arranger keyboard but is good for stage and live environment. Anything you do for playback singing is best done through software. Much flexible in every respect. It does not mean you can’t use it for recording but then you have to know all about your keyboard which might be much more than simply getting your hands on a recording software.

As for this song I respect your choice and enjoy hearing them but would appreciate something from the Sub-Continent more.

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Hemanth Kumar Pro user said

Harshan,

Immense thanks for the details, and I have started experimenting Audacity now…. Couple of follow up questions please:

(1) When I play a karaoke track and try singing along, there seems to be some latency between the kar track and my voice. How to eliminate that, so that I hear the “track plus voice” as a synchronized output on my headphones?

(2) I have a good Shure mic that has a 1/4 inch connector, that I use for my primitive (current) recording process. Can I use the same mic, use an adapter for the 1/4 inch to a smaller pin that fits into my notebook? Will that work, and will such a connection retain the performance of a good mic?

(3) Similar to Q(2)) above, I have good pair of headphones that has a quarter inch connector too. Can I use an adapter pin and reuse the same headphones on my Laptop too?

Immense thanks and kind regards,

Hemanth

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Hemanth Kumar Pro user said

Naqvi Guru Ji :-),

Many thanks for your valuable feedback. Yes, as I acknowledged above, my recording process is not optimal at all. I have never been familiar with playback recording Softwares all along, until recent exposure in Muziboo….

I am overly under utilizing my spectacular Tyros3. I am an amateur self-learned keyboardist for most part. However, tried my hands at some keyboard lessons at Dallas couple of years ago (Western style, using both hands). Did not make way too much progress, but during this process, had purchased the Tyros3, and also started using its recording features.

Tyros3 has a fantastic mixer in built, but the drawback with Tyros3 is that it only has one record-able input, which is its “mic input”. So, if I connect my microphone into this jack, there is no way to simultaneously connect the karaoke track from my laptop into the Tyros.

I therefore came up with this grand idea of using the Behringer mixer, to fuse my mic (voice) my laptop (karaoke track), and to provide a single track combined output. This output I connect into the recordable “mic” input of Tyros…. and whole (inefficient) process gets recorded in Tyros….

Based on Harshan, Dr. Sridhar, and now your inputs as well, I will serious look at switching to software recording. I am hoping that I can reuse my SHURE mic and a good headphone that I use with Tyros. Both these accessories have 1/4 inch connectors, whereas, my laptop only has those 1/8 inch jacks….

Regarding your preference for music from our sub-continent, I totally understand and respect your taste :-) ! I am predominantly your taste too, but I do love Western oldies very much too…. you know legends like Elton John, Paul Simon etc. So, I will be churning out a western cover now and then, but certainly not too frequently :-) ….

Many thanks, once again for your valuable inputs. I will try and adapt quickly to software recordings.

Warm regards,

Hemanth

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Muzaffar Naqvi Pro user said

Dear Hemanth with present day pc power your latency issue should be minimal. You might need to refresh and run the audio engine within your software to to keep it in sync. Latency will always be there….its physical delay that comes from the voice getting into mic, then to mixer and then to sound card, processed inside pc and coming back at the output of sound card and finally into your headphones. But this entire chain is within 30-50ms which is already so small people don’t even realize it. The best is to shift the vocals track physically a little to the left. Zoom your Karaoke Track and align your vocals with the nearest beat. With experience you will overcome this issue in your final mix.

A 1/4" jack can always be converted into a 1/8" jack but you can not input it into your pc line in or mic in. Remember PC mics are cheap and designed differently. Your Shure Mic is a Dynamic Mic and needs a pre-amp. The output levels for pc mics and Dynamic Mics are totally different. But you can always use the output signal from a mixer into pc’s line-in socket.

Since you mentioned you have a 1/4" Mic Jack, it means you are using it as unbalanced device. Your Mic definitely has a 3 pin connector that you can use if you buy an XLR cable. Its both ends have 3 pin connectors and is balanced connection too. With XLR you eliminate the dc offset that is generated within electronics. I am sure your mixer also has a 3 pin XLR connection, so use it.

Headphones can always be converted from 1/4" to 1/8" using appropriate adapters. No problem with that.

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Hemanth Kumar Pro user said

Dear Guru ji,

Very valuable tips indeed…. It is great to know that I can reuse my headphone. Thanks for educating about the “Dynamic Mic” concept. In that case, I guess I will have to use my mic along with my Behringer as I do now.

One more follow up ques please, whenever you have the time (it must be pretty late for you at Montreal)….

The jacks for the “final output” from my mixer are L+R stereo jacks. Can I fuse these together using an adapter, into a single 1/8 inch pin, for plugging into my PC’s mic-in….??

If I do that, will it have any implication on any voice effects that I might experiment on my Behringer….? For instance, I am thinking that to capture Echo and Reverb effects of the Behringer, one needs to tap its final output in stereo mode (2 pins)…. But when I fuse these two pins to a single 1/8 pin, for input to my PC’s mic-in, will I lose all these Behringher vocal effects??

Gratefully appreciate your invaluable inputs….

Warm regards,

Hemanth

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Muzaffar Naqvi Pro user said

Mic-in on PC’s is always a mono type 1/8" pin. However Line-In is stereo hence you can connect your mixer output using an 1/4" to 1/8" adapter. Since you will be recording vocals into ycour pc you will have to use either of the one channel, right or left. Vocals should and always are recorded as mono. Also remember to not use effects from Mixer. Once your vocals get infected with effects it is almost impossible to work on it. A little FX is OK but keep it as dry as possible while recording. Effects are added through software plug-ins during mixing and mastering to your taste.

You may ask then why do you have so many good effects on your mixer if you can’t use for your recording? The answer is those effects are for live performances not for recording purposes.

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Hemanth Kumar Pro user said

Understood, Naqvi ji….

My notebook does not have Line-In jacks at all…. so my only recordable input on my notebook is my 1/8 inch mic input.

I guess I have 2 possible options for the mic part:

(a) Like we discussed above, use my existing setup (Behringher plus Shure), and not use any effects on the Behringher at all. I will have to fuse its L+R output jacks of the mixer into a single 1/8 inch pin and input it into my notebook’s mic-in.

Alternatively,

(b) Buy a good mic that is suitable for music/vocal recording on laptops. I will research this front too, but if you are aware of any quality mics for laptops, do pls let me know.

Immense thanks and do have a good night.

Warm regards,

Hemanth

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Jivan Kohli said

Good Talent you have…Hemant’ji………….& Good Experimentation with your Vocal’s too………Rest, All the Above Recording lesson’s… Was All very Valuable information Even for All of us….Tc & Best wishes……Loved your Take on this One……

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Hemanth Kumar Pro user said

Dear Jivan Ji,

Thank you very much. You are a constant source of humility and encouragement. I highly value your connection with me in this forum :-) !

Many thanks….!!

I have now repeated the performance, hopefully with more clarity, based on the inputs above. Please do check it out when you have some time.

Many thanks & warm regards,

Hemanth

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Adwait Ranade (busy, away) Pro user said

Nice one, Hemanth bhai. Enjoyed your take and loved the modulations.
Your setup: you already have a decent Mic (if its’ Shure). What you need is an external interface (something like Lexicon Alpha that excepts 24 bit input) which is connected to the Notebook through USB port. That’d solve the problem at hand :)

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Hemanth Kumar Pro user said

Dear Adwait ji,

When you have some time, do please check out my reattempted Human Nature with some improved mixing…. I have put to use some awesome tips above from Harshan bro & Naqvi ji. It is uploaded to the same location here….

Thanks much on the external interface tip as well. Naqvi ji mentioned the same too. Will try it out someday :-) !

Many thanks and kind regards,

Hemanth

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Jivan Kohli said

It Sounded Definitely Better,I Believe….May be more clarity Has Come in No-doubt….

In my Early teen’s I did use to listen to Michael-jackson,Madonna,George Michael etc….The Hit lot of Western Generation….But Off-late…I have strictly stuck to my Bases though…….And Definitely Not in touch With the Current western Song’s Craze…….

I loved your Rendition & the spirit with which you sang……….

In Singapore Where Exactly you stay……I used to visit there Quite often officially,Around 7 year’s Back…….Sherangoon Road,The famous—-Mustafa……,little-India……And loved the Hustle-Bustle there….& the night-life……

Try Recording On A soft-ware which are freely Available in the site’s…….I mostly record my song’s on Adobe 3.0 version….

tc & Best wishes….

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Hemanth Kumar Pro user said

Hi Jivan Ji,

Thanks for checking out the repeat…. I have a long association with Singapore, but have long breaks in between too. I worked here from 1994 to 1998 and then left for the USA. I just returned back to Singapore this year, to try and re-assimilate back into Asia. I live in the Northern part called Woodlands….

Glad to know about your previous trips and your liking for Singapore. Do ping me the next time you are here, we can jam some music together :-) !

Thanks for the tip on Adobe 3.0. I tried using Audacity today, but since I don’t have a proper mic for my laptop, I aborted. Do you have any issues of feedback latency, for your vocals to be processed by your computer and for you to hear real-time on your headphones?

I seem to have too much latency on Audacity. It could also be because of the lower-end skype-mic that I am using for testing….

Thank you & kind regards,

Hemanth

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Vinod (away for a while) Kumar Pro user said

Wow that was an awesome rendition Hemanth….enjoyed it in your voice…you are truly verstaile….and btw ythe comments and interaction in this thread really gave me lots of input which i was also looking for….I am in the same boat as you are……got some inputs for recording…will have to try slowly and steadily….

I am yet to start exploring the devices I have purchased recently….should start using them soon……not familiar with how to add effects like echo , reverb and time delays on the dry recording….what are the advisable limits for settings …perhaps when we get the hang on basic settings then we will be in a position to improvise according to our taste….any help on this please??……thank you so much to all who have also educated me in the process….:)
Warm Regards
Vinod Kumar

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Hemanth Kumar Pro user said

Dear Vinod,

Many thanks for your kind appreciation. Yes, these tips from our friends/mentors have been infinitely valuable….!!

The concept of “raw vocals recording” and subsequent mixing for effects is truly an alien concept to me. I wonder how we can enjoy our recording attempts without hearing a real-time feedback of the mixing effects (reverb, echo, etc.)….!!??

But then, the final products of all our friends above (including you) have been nothing less than professional quality to me :-) !

I wonder why you even think about wanting to make improvements in your recordings. I thought they have almost all sounded unbelievably clear and spectacular :-) !!??

On the mix part, Harshan bro advised to use Reverb instead of Echo whenever possible, for better clarity….

Let’s look forward to continual enrichment through all our awesome friends in this awesome forum :-)!

Warm regards,

Hemanth

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Hema Shamal Pro user said

Absolutely different from your other uploads,I wonder how You can give justice to Manna Dey and M Jackson both and so well at the same time!!!You are a versatile singer.It’s of course a famous song by M Jackson.Though I don’t understand much I always like his music and performance.I have no words,enough knowledge to justify your singing,I’m agreed to our all friends above….Very good work,Keep it up…God Bless….

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Hemanth Kumar Pro user said

Hema ji, Honored to receive your commendation and constant encouragement….! You are a household name at my home now…. My wife and kids were simply blown away listening to your recent cover of Asha ji’s song :-) !

Sincere thank you, and kind regards,

Hemanth

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Giri∂hαrαη. u. r. Pro user said

Very beautiful Hemanth.
I appreciate the earnestness and the efforts you take for perfection. We may not get the opportunity to learn always and it’s really nice and great that you are making the best use of the learning opportunity available to you here and now.

(Honestly I could not understand the perfection that has gone into this re-upload. It sounds to be very good and so was the previous one too. But reading through the messages exchanged between you, Naqvi ji and Harshan was like undergoing a class in mixing technique! Thanks for that…)
Regards,
Giri.

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Harshan (away) Nambiar Pro user said

Not me…Naqvi saab is very knowledgable in that area…I am still surviving with a primitive setup:)

Hemanth….see now how much better it sounds than the earlier uploads……Play with it …trial and error….you will discover the optimum set up …for your voice……thanks for going the extra mile and remixing it.
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Hemanth Kumar Pro user said

Dear Giri,

Thank you very much for listening again. The improvements were with the voice clarity overall, and especially in those high pitched “That way”…. And the other improvement was the echo effect using Audacity.

On the flip side :-), with all these experimenting, the overall decibels of my vocals turned out a bit lower in this version. Also, my feel seems a bit lower this time.

Therefore the + and the – probably neutralized the overall gain, which is why you probably could not recognize any major improvement :-) !

Thanks anyways for your time and encouragement. Yes, there seems to be a long journey ahead in the quest for learning software mixing :-) !

Kind regards,

Hemanth

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Hemanth Kumar Pro user said

Dear Harshan,

You & Naqvi ji have imparted to me so much knowledge during the course of these past 2 months of our interactions here :-) !

Yes, yesterday’s experimentation with raw vocals followed by software mixing was a first-experience for me, and it was quite some fun. As you say, I will keep playing around, and there surely isn’t any single optimal setting. I am sure these settings would vary song to song. Therefore this will be some ongoing challenge and fun….

Many thanks for your invaluable time and assistance. Based on some some of the posts above, this thread seems to have helped a couple of others too, on the mixing fundamentals.

Kind regards,

Hemanth

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Thinkal govind kumar Pro user said

Hemanth….
WOW ! WOW !
Real versatility !
Great talent !
Hats off !
GOD Bless !
Loving Best Wishes,
Thinkal Govind Kumar.

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Hemanth Kumar Pro user said

:-) ! Thanks, Govind bro…. Means a lot to me…. Many thanks !!

Hemanth

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Raja.j Mohamed said

Hemanth ji sweetful attempt and very differ effort…nice…:)
Music are my breath:)

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Hemanth Kumar Pro user said

Raja ji,

Many thanks for your time and kind appreciation :-) !

Kind regards,

Hemanth

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Rajeev Bhave Pro user said

Hemant Ji, sorry for coming late, but one advantage is that I got an awesome slesson in recording and mixing from all the gurus here. First about your song – Love Michael Jackson but sincerely feel that this song has so much association with him and his high pitch voice and style it is hard to relate to it with another singer. Your attempt was brave and in tune but the falsetto seemed a bit out of place. Just my humble opinion!

About recording, I have Sonar but do not have time to master it so use Audacity. there are a lot of VST effects that you can use with it. Seems like you are using an older version of Audacity. they have the 1.3 Beta that has fixed the latency issue. I also agree with Naqvi Sahab that without a “line-in” jack in your nottebook your vocal recording can not have the same effect. I am new and learning as well!
Rajeev Bhave

My latest upload – Kaise sukoon paoon – Talat Aziz

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Hemanth Kumar Pro user said

Dear Rajeev ji,

Thank you so very much for spending your valuable time today to check many of my recent covers.

As to this song, your observations are quite true. During my past attempt an year or so ago (before M’Boo exposure), my attempt / falsetto got recorded much better, but there was a lot of background noise….

This “Human Nature” attempt above, I tried some newer techniques of separate tracks for vocals and track, and then mixing. The noise level was eliminated, the echo sounds better, but as you have accurately pointed out, there isn’t the require feel and sharpness in my falsetto. I absolutely agree with your feedback. I will certainly retry and upload a better version down the road, and might bug you for listening once more :-) ….

This was my first attempt at mixing using a software (Audacity). I am indeed using 1.3 Beta version. I could not however set it right, to hear my singing without a delay, during my singing/recording process. Therefore, I switched back to my previous process of recording on my Tyros3 keyboard, but recording the vocals only. I then transported the vocals from Tyros to Audacity, and I mixed it with the track. There’s tonnes to learn about effects etc., and I am sure to show some serious improvements fairly soon.

Many thanks again for your candid feedback and for your kind tips on mixing.

Warm regards,

Hemanth


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