Indian Idol
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Prateek Dayal
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Love it or hate it, Indian Idol is one of the most popular talent search on TV currently. There are lot of controversies around it like the whole sms affair, attitude of the judges and what not.
Since we have quite an awesome and critical community out here at Muziboo I wanted to ask what everyone feels about Indian Idol and similar shows. Do they help in discovering talent and help you get noticed or are they just a money making device for the big channels and mobile operators?
Posted 3 months ago
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Reality Shows….Well I watch few times….They make sense to me…
PLUS :
—Learn to Compete
—Get Popularity
—Chance to go near Real opportunities(not sure but)
—Hard work you do in all these days is just pure gain
MINUS :
—I hate Voting System as Voting is State based instead of Music Based.
—Singer just beg like a begger instead of let his music speak for himself….
Just remember a scene from movie called ‘SAAZ’ where Raghuvir Yadav sing a SONG , in heavy RAIN , called ‘BADAL GHUMAD BADH AAYE ’ as his friend said u r a begger asking for 20 Rs. He say I am not begger and sing that AMAZING song to EARN it…I just love that attitude in SINGER ’s personality. But here situation is after you sing…you have to BEG ….thats a worst thing I have ever seen…
—SMS count decide the winner doesn’t make any sense to me…but its needed to let reality show going well.
—All faltu music directors who do all kind of faltu Bakwas should be replaced with comments we have on MUZIBOO …which make some sense…and encourage to learn…
I would not say that INDIAN IDOL doesn’t help…But I am just not happy with the NON MUSIC things involved in this….So I prefer to change the channel once participants sing the SONG ….
Few more Ideas:
—We have lot of talented composer…there should be a competition on Composing and Lyrics writing…
—There should be competition of music Arrangement…Music arrangement is a key part in any successful music these days.
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Shows like Indian Idol and many other shows are prima facie a boon for a singer. It all depends upon how a singer utilises his/her opportunities. It can make or mar a singer..
I do agree with most of the points what Shashank has said above. Would add a few more.
These sort of shows more or less puts a virtual stop to the leaning process of a singer..He/she is put to too much of fame and adulation. This gives them a feeling that they are the supreme singers and that added to the lack of time almost forces them to unknowingly stop practicing. Managing fame is an art, which many don’t handle properly.
And then the system of selecting a singer supremo by voting is not the correct method. This is not politics where popularity counts. The talent should be rewarded whether it is popular or not. We have seen people spending lakhs of rupees to canvas for the votes for the contestants. Votes are sent based on the communal/regional preferences which are still a bad practise. Many even tell this while making a vote request.. Bengalis voting for a bengali contestant, Punjabis voting for a Punjabi contestant or andhriite voting for a telugu contestant is not a nice practice.
Then comes the judges..There is major ego clash amongst the judges. They try to prove/show off their caliber more than to judge that of the contestants. Moreover there is rarely a concurrent view on a singer’s performance. They tend to argue in a very cheap manner on TV which is not really a healthy trend.
Lastly but not so in its order of importance…The way the comments are passed on the singers performance. Sometimes they are too much insulting and sometimes too much praising. Both are bad..They should know to have a balanced commenting which will make the right impact. This will prevent the contestant from getting disappointed or over confident.
At the end of all these, what happens to even the winners , we have seen. Road to success is still not so smooth to many…
Hope I have made some valid points…
N V K
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1. Agree with all the points made above.
However, the voting system, the drama and the reality element is what seems to be keeping the TRPs up. so, if u take out the voting system, ppl like u n i may watch it with more keenness. but the producers want mass audience following. :D just the way, saas bahu serials go.
2. to generalise, if u watch something on TV tat u perceive is unintelligent .. it is probably going to be much more popular. Cuz it is made for a mass audience and most ppl love laughing at others.
3. there are also shows such as roadies and splitsvilla.. which are constantly tryin tat much more to “westernize” the indian mindset for the bad. i m not against them being aired, but i dont see the point.
4. in comparison, i guess music reality talent hunts are probably better off. they do provide contestants genuine oppurtunities to knock on the right doors.
5. i guess there are quite a few contestants who realise tat stardom thru such reality shows is just a jumpstart to their career.. and not an end in itself.
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I don’t know whether i am a right candidate to write my opinion here since i have divorced television as a dumb and passive medium quite a few months back.. My marriage to the Internet serves me well with all the information i need, with the interactive company of quality friends like Prateek and Shashank.
I was however pushed to participate in this big racket called Indian Idol. Yes i do feel after seeing the whole process, that its a racket of the SMS providers and the TV channel which can go to any extent to show media buyers that its got eyeballs.
Indian Idol entry process:
The process of entry requires you to send atleast 3 premium SMSes. Most of the people there waiting on the line did not even have the requisite confirmations. But they were rounded up like a herd of goats and so the herd psychology goes. I began to get more curious
I saw people doing all sorts of circus to get featured in the recording. Hanging from banyan vines, doing mimicry and everything but music.
The long wait: People from all over the country were kept waiting for 8 long hours without water.
audition: was done in a room with a yuppie sitting four feet away.. with a loud pedestal fan giving accompaniment.
Most professional singers in my group were right away rejected. Some of them had come from very remote places.
The Great drama: I stopped watching Indian Idol after i got assured that they are not showcasing talent… rather like the Hindi news channels, they are trying to sell cheap sensation. Which in no way can help an artist. Its not a wonder that right from the groups created by channel V through talent search and the past winners of Indian Idol are nowhere to be seen.
The cabaret of Judges: I was appalled to see SOnu Nigam doing a near child-abuse, rudely speaking to a child participant. Maybe both of them were trying to act a sensational drama… but what are we trying to convey here?
Sonu Nigam and the other judges with the “X-factor” are nowhere close to the musical stalwarts we have in this country. They are just plain popular by false publicity and their music hence will have less shelf life.
When Indian Idol speaks about X factor.. they better be clear.. are we appreciating talent in Music… or are we creating night club singers?
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i guess it has its good and bad parts
good parts
- i guess finally the indian parent can tell their kids not become engineers or doctors but do what they want to do …and this was definitely not a motive of the indian idol but i think more of a by the way
- there s definitely talent ..household bathroom singers talent and so on …
bad parts
- indian music sadly even today is all about “vocals”. from a creative perspective…
a musicians song is a song that has lots of instrumental medleys , arpeggios , progressions and then finally the vocals
an audience song is song where the music is absolutely useless but just the vocals on top of everything no matter how difficult that guitar part was and so on.
- i totally agree with Radio idli’s comments with the attitude of the judges…but on hindsight i dont think that should be taken personally..they are perhaps getting paid to be rude
overall,
participating in such competitions is a risky affair.while disappointments can fire you and propel a musician to get inspired and try and do better and the same time it could potentially prove to be very very harmful.
having said that ..i agree with competition but sometimes its a lot more easier and comfortable to relax , sit back and be an underdog.
music is something to be enjoyed , relaxed.
it could have political overtones , creative overtones and the list is endless so as a creative medium it should inspire people no matter what they do and who they are.
to take it to the level of competition to me atleast means losing my creativity. i could probably do the worst possible job in playing a metallica cover song which even a 8th grader these days can do but i can definitely write that one song where even the best guitarists could spend a whole lotta time trying to understand what i have played and composed.
so it really boils down to “originality”
if duplicating a song , perfecting it and perhaps even doing better than the original is “music” and it satisfies the majority of people then shows like indian idol are definitely for you
but if you are trying to be original its best that one try to stay away from doing covers..somewhere somehow subconciously it will affect your originality
now thats my sole perspective.music to me is a fresh breath of air. every tune exists in its own space and time.if i try to replicate it ..its a waste of time for me ..id rather make something new than something thats already there. perhaps cos i am a little lazy.
All in all , these shows are necessary. sometimes the bad points outweigh the good ones but hey ..competition is the father of invention !! lol
atleast the 10% of the participants who get through really have practised hard.
maybe one day if i’m selected i might change my point of view..lol but chances of any of that happening are really really miniscule.so i can live with the fact that i’ll make music for that 90% who could never make it to that competition and inspire them to be original ! lol
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